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Re: Shoulder Shrugging

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Scott, my first neuro told me he felt 50/50 about selegiline.  Another was
kind of like yours who said "do you want this or try this" but I submit that
it is worse to have a neuro who orders you around and wants you to take
drugs that don't help

I think I've said many times that Sinemet was like a miracle on the very
first dose, but never again although I took it for a year.  After DBSs I
tried it and Comtan again, still no help with dyskinesias this time, so I
don't take any PD meds..I know they really help most PWP, but I feel I am
better off without them and think the DBS helped more than anything.
Tremors are very hard to treat.

This is a very strange disease and not well understood, Ray
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott E. Antes" <Scott.Antes@xxxxxxx>
To: <PARKINSN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 7:27 AM
Subject: Re: Shoulder Shrugging


Thanks, Dee.

Laureen can move her shoulders just fine when *not* on meds.  The meds
(Sinemet) seem to stiffen her up rather than help with mobility.  It
wasn't
always that way, but she has been on Sinemet for at least eight years now.
Interestingly, it's not just Sinemet.  When she takes highly-concentrated
vegetable extracts, she gets the same reaction as with Sinemet,
symptom-wise.
What she doesn't want to do is take one more drug of any kind.

What amazes me with PD are the doctors' reactions to it.  One neurologist
wrote Laureen about half a dozen prescriptions on visit.  It was like,
"Want
to try this?  Here, I'll write you a prescription.  How about this one?
Here's a prescription.  And another.  And another.  And one more.
Experiment
on yourself and see me in a year or so."

A few years back we made contact with a shaman in Ecuador who told us he
would
have Laureen "dancing like a ballerina" (I know, amazing that he knew what
a
ballerina was).  I told a big-name PD neurologist about it, and he
encouraged
us to try the treatment--and if the herbs worked, to bring him some so
that he
could have them analyzed for the active ingredient.  While I was impressed
at
his apparent open-mindedness, it was another example of how much is *not*
known about treating PD.  Anyway, we never did go to Ecuador.  Too much
shamanic competition going on....

Scott

===== Original Message From "Parkinson's Information Exchange Network"
<PARKINSN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> =====
Good morning Scott,
...In answer to your question about shoulder shrugging, I don't have that
problem myself....
...It does seem strange that your wife would have difficulty shrugging her
shoulders when her Sinemet is working.  That is when we  should be at our
most
flexible and pain free. I do recall having read articles about Levadopa
related
dystonia.  In those cases, I  believe the recommendation was to reduce the
Sinemet dosage to see if it  relieves the dystonia without aggravating the
Parkinson's symptoms.  If  that doesn't work, it is suggested that adding
Amantadine might help.   Check with your doctor if you suspect that there
is
a
connection here and do some research on the subject before doing any
alteration to
the drug  dosage.

Happy Halloween!

Dee

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Scott E. Antes Department of Anthropology Northern Arizona University Flagstaff, AZ 86011-5200

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