Re: The Archives are the paper trail

[rayilynlee <rayilynlee@xxxxxxx>]

"The abortion of a fetus is problematic; therapeutic cloning is not."

This is a statement I made that a friend of mine and I found in the PIEN
archives wherein I state over and over again that I have never encouraged
anyone to have an abortion, but don't like folks confusing abortion with
ESCR.  There are also some discussions I had with people who were explaining
the Jewish position on abortion with me.

One thing that is great about emailing is that there is a record.  If anyone
wants to follow these ridiculous accusations go to the archives.
Ray


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mary Ann Ryan" <bentwillow@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <PARKINSN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 5:27 AM
Subject: Re: Cells are not people


> Oh, yes I do.  You shared them with this list once. Remember, Ray, I've
> been
> here a long time.
> -------
> Mary Ann
> www.bentwillowfarm.org
> Subject: Re: Cells are not people
>
>
> > Mary Ann, you have no idea what my opinions on abortion are.
> > Ray
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mary Ann Ryan" <bentwillow@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <PARKINSN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:13 AM
> > Subject: Re: Cells are not people
> >
> >
> > > Ray, the major premise that formulates the logic for both of us on this
> > > issue is different.
> > >
> > > You think that abortion is Ok.  I don't. So.....the syllogism goes
> > > something
> > > like this:
> > >
> > > Ray:
> > > Aborting a fetus is OK
> > > Embryos are the first stage of fetal development
> > > Therefore, destroying embryos is OK.
> > >
> > > Me:
> > > Aborting a fetus is not OK
> > > Embryos are the first stage of fetal development
> > > Therefore, destroying embryos is not OK
> > >
> > > Pro-choice folks will *never* understand why pro-life folks have taken a
> > > stand on this issue and vice versa.  We are oceans apart.
> > >
> > > I stood on the fence on this issue until I read TIME magazine's report
> > > on
> > > stem cell research that stated, "Extracting knowledge from embryos that
> > > would otherwise be wasted is one thing, but scientists admit that moving
> > > forward would require a much larger supply of fresh, healthy embryos
> > > than
> > > fertility clinics could ever provide."  (TIME, Aug. 7, 2006)
> > >
> > > That single statement pulled me off the fence.
> > > ------------
> > > Mary Ann (CG Jamie 66/26 with PD)
> > >
> > >
> > >
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