Re: The Archives are the paper trail

[Mary Ann Ryan <bentwillow@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Ray, when we were discussing euthanasia, you clearly wrote that you were
pro-choice.

Now, I certainly didn't mean to offend you.  I respect your pro-choice
stance and certainly would not criticize you for it.  I was merely pointing
that your major premise and mine, in that arena of stem cell research, are
totally different.  It was meant to be a point for discussion, not derision.

If you are not pro-choice than I apologize.  If you are then the syllogism
should not be offensive to you.
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Mary Ann
www.bentwillowfarm.org

> "The abortion of a fetus is problematic; therapeutic cloning is not."
>
> This is a statement I made that a friend of mine and I found in the PIEN
> archives wherein I state over and over again that I have never encouraged
> anyone to have an abortion, but don't like folks confusing abortion with
> ESCR.  There are also some discussions I had with people who were
> explaining
> the Jewish position on abortion with me.
>
> One thing that is great about emailing is that there is a record.  If
> anyone
> wants to follow these ridiculous accusations go to the archives.
> Ray
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mary Ann Ryan" <bentwillow@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <PARKINSN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 5:27 AM
> Subject: Re: Cells are not people
>
>
> > Oh, yes I do.  You shared them with this list once. Remember, Ray, I've
> > been
> > here a long time.
> > -------
> > Mary Ann
> > www.bentwillowfarm.org
> > Subject: Re: Cells are not people
> >
> >
> > > Mary Ann, you have no idea what my opinions on abortion are.
> > > Ray
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Mary Ann Ryan" <bentwillow@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <PARKINSN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:13 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Cells are not people
> > >
> > >
> > > > Ray, the major premise that formulates the logic for both of us on this
> > > > issue is different.
> > > >
> > > > You think that abortion is Ok.  I don't. So.....the syllogism goes
> > > > something
> > > > like this:
> > > >
> > > > Ray:
> > > > Aborting a fetus is OK
> > > > Embryos are the first stage of fetal development
> > > > Therefore, destroying embryos is OK.
> > > >
> > > > Me:
> > > > Aborting a fetus is not OK
> > > > Embryos are the first stage of fetal development
> > > > Therefore, destroying embryos is not OK
> > > >
> > > > Pro-choice folks will *never* understand why pro-life folks have taken
> > > > a
> > > > stand on this issue and vice versa.  We are oceans apart.
> > > >
> > > > I stood on the fence on this issue until I read TIME magazine's report
> > > > on
> > > > stem cell research that stated, "Extracting knowledge from embryos that
> > > > would otherwise be wasted is one thing, but scientists admit that
> > > > moving
> > > > forward would require a much larger supply of fresh, healthy embryos
> > > > than
> > > > fertility clinics could ever provide."  (TIME, Aug. 7, 2006)
> > > >
> > > > That single statement pulled me off the fence.
> > > > ------------
> > > > Mary Ann (CG Jamie 66/26 with PD)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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