Immaculate Conception

[rayilynlee <rayilynlee@xxxxxxx>]

Mr. Ertelt:

Although Pope Pius II  proclaimed in 1869 that life begins at conception, IVF 
has taken some stages of the reproductive process out of the human body making 
implantation in a human uterus a necessary step in the reproduction of persons 
process. 

I have been conferring with adult stem cell scientists here in AZ about  
exactly where conception takes place and I got the papal reference from Dr. 
Mobely at the U of AZ which failed to clarify the issue.  The question of 
implantation/conception is unclear.  Perhaps you can explain this relationship. 
 If a blastocyst fails to implant or is not implanted there will never be a 
human being and that's for sure, at least for now.

Believers in immaculate conception and virgin birth could get away with 
pronouncements about conception more easily when reproduction took place only 
in the human body.  IVF changed all that.   Nowhere in any biology textbook or 
the Bible does it say that a cell is a person or a human "being".

I think the real ethical issue is whether or not we should interfere in this 
process or not.  I say "yes" and you probably really say "no" for religious 
reasons like "we are playing God".  You try to bring the argument around to 
secular reasoning, but it fails to hide your true motivation.

Rayilyn Brown
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steven Ertelt 
  To: rayilynlee 
  Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 5:41 PM
  Subject: Re: Murder of Cells


  Check your biology textbook. Our body is made of cells but a humen being 
beings at the point of conception. When you understand this 
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