Re: Doctor who performed abortions shot to death

[PATTI ZAPF <thinkzig@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Dear Dirk:
For me, this Parkinson's Info exchange has been for the most part,
enjoyable and informational.  The recent comments on abortion will
soon die down.  The few venting their own ideologies feel better I'm
sure, as they had an opportunity to get their message out.   Hang in
there... pd folks and their caregivers will once again chit chat about
what's working for them and what's not.  This exchange has helped me
feel more connected to the pd community.

At the beginning of our pd career 14 years ago, we started a support
group in our small town and two older pd patient came to those
meetings.  It was a real eye opener, as both men were greatly advanced
in their pd.  My husband and i weren't ready to see that stage and got
scared as to what was in our future.  Our subconscious minds could
play strong games with our expectations of what will happen down the
road.

After a few months of meetings, we dissolved the group and have not
been involved in another monthly meeting support group since.  I have
gone thru several stages of seeking pd info as doctors have changed,
new meds are introduced, and changes in my husband physical abilities
take place..  At times, this has been a full time job and my only
payback has been feeling like we are getting the latest info on
treatments, as we hunt for a cure.

I never read the messages about the abortion issue and just deleted
those messages, as they didn't interest me.

Patti Zapf
Dallas, TX



> Paula, just one thought to the question of legality. During the
> Third Reich it was quite legal to sent the undesirable to the
> concentration camps, as it was legal in the sixties to order Blacks
> to the back of the bus.During the Third Reich the courts were
> stacked with Nazi lawyers and today the US courts are and will be
> more stacked with Obama cronies.
>
> Some things you just don't do, because your conscience tell you to,
> whether it is to murder a doctor or murder a baby in the birth
> canal. Interesting the root of the word "con"-"science", I prefer
> 'common sense' , which is hard to find these .
>
> I subscribed to this forum hoping to find more info regarding my
> wife's PD. However, it turned out to be a political platform whose
> ideas
> I can never support. With that, please take me off your mailing list.
> Dirk Kukler
> Westbank BC Canada
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula E. Jayne" <pjayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: <PARKINSN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 9:12 AM
> Subject: Re: Doctor who performed abortions shot to death
>
>
> > Whether or not you (the collective you) believe abortion is
> > necessary or not,
> > the fact remains that it is legal.   If you disagree with it,
> > appropriate
> > responses might include fighting the battle in the courts, helping
> > to improve
> > adoption services so that those women who carry to term but choose
> > not to
> > mother have viable alternatives, lessening the social stigma and
> > huge financial
> > costs of being a single parent, helping to increase access
> > (including financial
> > access) to contraceptives,  improving sexual education in schools
> > so that teens
> > have accurate information about their fertility (or, if you don't
> > think
> > adolescents should be having sex before marriage & therefore they
> > shdn't need
> > to know about contraceptives, fight for Life Skills education which
> > teaches
> > teens how to reason through big decisions), supporting any way you
> > can the
> > parents that you do know, having civil conversations with people
> > about why you
> > don't believe abortion should be legal, volunteering for foster
> > care, be a big
> > brother / big sister, fight for a liveable mimimum wage so people
> > can afford to
> > raise children,  fight for day care reform so parents can count on
> > safe and
> > affordable childcare,  the list goes on & on...
> >
> > but taking a gun into a holy place and shooting a person in front
> > of their
> > family, friends, and God?
> > hopefully we can all agree that this is not the act of a loving
> > person or one
> > who truly values life.  & for those who say he was trying to save
> > the children,
> > i am quite sure there were children in that church who witnessed
> > the murder
> > and who will never, ever forget what they experienced that day.
> >
> > Incidentally, late-term abortions,  often referred to as partial-
> > birth
> > abortions, are very rarely performed and it is not an easy decision
> > for the
> > parent(s) to come to.   These are not women who just decided that
> > they no
> > longer wanted a baby.   It is not a whim.   Even if you don't and
> > will never
> > agree with it, please try to understand that you are speaking of
> > real women and
> > men when you make blanket condemnations (and this is true for all
> > of us,
> > whether we're in the right, left, or middle).
> >
> >
> > ******************************************
> > Paula Jayne, MA, MPH
> > Doctoral Candidate
> > Department of Women's Studies
> > Emory University
> > Atlanta, GA 30322
> >
> >
> >
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